SPEAKER_00 0:04

You're listening to the Hanging with the AD podcast, where we break down hot topics in athletic administration and let's improve through leadership. Now, here are your hosts, Josh Matthews and Don Baker.

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Welcome to another episode of Hangin' with the AD. Today is another edition of our single topic series we'd like to do, where we will be discussing the evolution of AI in our society, which who we have liked become a huge topic in all aspects of education, including our world athletics. Today's guest is superintendent of the Pearl Public School District in Pearl, Mississippi, Mr. Chris Chisholm. Chris, he's dived into AI research and we're going to get into that. He's become a sought-after speaker on this topic that is really a huge hot button topic across uh uh just about every industry right now. Chris has given his presentation. Uh you won't see his presentation today, but we'll talk about it. He's given a presentation that he has really uh uh nailed down AI. He's done it 152 times in 15 months. So that shows you uh we have an expert with us today here with Mr. Chris Chisholm. Chris, thanks for joining us today. Man, happy to be here. All right, so let's start with how did you become engrossed with AI and develop this large and growing stage to speak on the topic of AI? I mean, you're a superintendent. I mean, you're supposed to be leading a school district, right? And you're doing AI.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

So it's a little of both. Uh and really this happened uh by accident. Uh I jumped into this about seven or eight years ago. And I I'm uh I'm a little bit on the techie side. I'm not a coder or anything, but I I enjoy technology just in general. And I saw um, I follow Elon Musk, Mustafa Suleyman, some of these godfathers of AI. You know, AI has been around since the early 60s. Uh people don't people don't know it as AI. They call it they call it algorithms, you know. So that's just been an evolution. And what was changing about six or seven years ago, they kept talking about a language model. Language model. We've had algorithms for years, but they couldn't talk to you. This is something revolutionary. So I was paying attention in the background to what was going on, and then I started saying, well, what companies can I put some money in that are going to be involved in this? And of course, I started seeing that they're going to be using GPUs instead of CPUs. So about seven or eight years ago, I started putting started pouring money into NVIDIA and AMD, uh, AMD, and then also Taiwan semiconductors as well. So really that's how it started. And then I just followed the research and what they were doing. And then I can tell you in November of 22, uh, when Chat GPT started, that was the first publicly available model to jump in and use. I stayed up till midnight that night, and I was one of the first ones to register for an account. And I used it till six o'clock in the morning. Dick got no sleep whatsoever. And I can tell you I have used it every single day since then. And I have no formal training. Understand, this is not, I have not taken a single class on this. Everything that I do is from the ground up, and it's just people everywhere want to know how to use this and they just don't know where to start. So I think that's the draw of what I'm doing with this. But how did I get into the speaking engagement is even funnier than that. I am a member of Pearl Kawanis. We have about 18 people in it, and I literally, several months after this thing got put out, I was just excited about it. I was talking to several people in a Kiwanis meeting. And they said, Well, our speaker next week has dropped out. Can you come and do a presentation? I was like, Yeah, sure, no problem. So I created a little 30-minute presentation. Well, two members of this Koanis were members next door in the Brandon Koanis. So they asked me to come speak there. Well, then there were some people from there that are in Southwest ranking one of the other groups, you know. So then I go and speak there. Well, there's a mayor in there and also the head of community bank, which is a huge bank here. The bankers asked me to come and do this, and it just ballooned from there. Uh, I and believe it or not, my biggest fear in life is public speaking. And I I think the good Lord got tired of hearing me say that. So he has put these opportunities in front of me, and I truly mean these are opportunities. I have visited uh Arkansas, Louisiana. Uh, again, I've been invited, believe it or not, I've been invited to speak in Kazakhstan, if you can believe that. Uh, I've been to uh Washington twice, New York, uh, Texas. I've been to lots of states, and again, even across Mississippi, and that's been the fun part, is I have seen a lot of districts that I would not have seen otherwise. And I mean school buildings, meeting people that I've never met, and and understand, guys, I don't charge a dime for this. This is completely free. And luckily, I have a school board that understands that this is so much bigger than Pearl. You know, all we see on the news, the things that are happening in the AI world and the quantum computing world are big. Like they are they are life-changing things that are happening in the background, and all we see is the infighting, and it gets a little frustrating. So my board is fabulous, and they understand that as long as I get my work done, they don't care how many times I go and speak, and they understand that I'm trying to do this for the greater good, especially for the kids in Mississippi. So they are 100% on board with it. And so again, it's just it's it's a combination of things that happened that that made this happen. It's all really by accident, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_03 5:14

And that I think that's some of the best stuff comes out of situations like that, in my opinion. Now, obviously, you know, you're a fan of AI as a tool, uh, and I think that you believe that it enhances education. Maybe speak to those people that say that it it poses more of a challenge for teachers and students. I I don't I don't think I agree with that, but maybe talk to them.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

Sure. And and I get that everywhere I go. I mean, that's this is not local to uh any certain group. There's a lot of people that have some trepidation with this, and they should, uh, to be honest with you. But I think what we have to do in education is change the way that we do things. And and I tell you, I go to um these school districts, and interestingly enough, usually the first question they ask is, what kind of policies did you put in place? My answer is none. We don't have a policy. It all falls under our current acceptable use policy. And if a kid gets caught cheating, he's cheating. You know, what we don't want to do is limit what kids can do with it and limit what teachers can do with it. So is there are there some things that can happen that are bad with AI? Certainly. But I say the same thing. There's some bad things that can happen with your cell phone. You know, there's some bad things that can happen with your car if you drive it the wrong way and drive too fast. AI is no different. Uh, you know, so so some of the things that I hear are, well, kids are gonna cheat with it. Well, again, I think we have to adjust the way that we do things. You know, the idea of sending home papers for teachers to uh to give kids to send home to do this at home, folks, they're gonna use it. So stop worrying about sending things home. And I challenge every district I go to to find me one good study that shows homework is actually beneficial for kids. You're not gonna find one because they don't exist, but yet we still live in this world of the 50s and 60s and pretend like this is the best way to do it. So we got to stop doing that and really start controlling the eight hours that we have, kids. That's where we have to change. Get away from the idea, quit teaching them this is bad to use and teach them to use it ethically. And there's some really good ways that that uh my teachers have come up with to do that.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

Yeah, that's good. Really good stuff. All right, uh, so so Chris, talk about uh how y'all use this in Pearl Public Schools. And you talked about your teachers are are using it. Um maybe, maybe include. I I I got a snippet, and there was another speaker going on. So include the story you told me about the English teacher who was about to retire, but when you taught her how to really use AI, she was re-energized to teach uh teach some more, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:39

Yeah, we we've got a shortage of teachers in Mississippi. I think you're finding that across the country in general, you know, especially really good English teachers at the high school level. And of course, she was one of my teachers before I came superintendent for 10 years. She she called me one day and she said, Look, I'm ready to hang it up. She's got 29 years, and here in the state, you only have to have 25. She has got a high school student who is a uh band member. And if you know anything about the band in Pearl, that is an all day, every day, and every weekend job. So as a parent, uh she she was really struggling with time, you know, and she came over and she sat with me and she said, I just can't do this anymore. And I said, Well, what's causing the problem? She said, I can't do the stuff at home anymore. I need to be a parent. And I said, Well, what's causing you the most headache? And she said, writing. Being able to go home and I have to grade papers every single night. And it takes me nine or 10 days to even get feedback to the kids. It's good quality feedback. And I said, Well, why don't we just sit down together and let's talk about that? So I pulled up Chat GPT and we took the state writing rubric and uploaded that. And then I had her for the next hour walk me through everything that she teaches, from introductory paragraphs to transitions to sentence structure to everything. It doesn't matter what it is, everything that she wanted to see. And she also gave me a couple of exemplars that we uploaded that are really good high school papers. So now we created a GPT for her. She doesn't have to grade at home. So again, it's about using the time efficiently that we have in the classroom. So what she did is now I've taken that, sent it to her, she sends it out to kids. So when they write during the day, she opens up that GPT for them, for them to put their paper or whatever they wrote into that meeting, and they get instant feedback. And it's really her feedback because she's the one that built it. So the fun part of this for me is I helped her build the first one. She got so fired up about this that she went and built her own. And she's built multiple since then. So that's that's the goal of this. Again, it can we inadvertently now instead of a kid getting feedback every 10 days, we're getting instant feedback. So we're writing three papers a week and not writing one every 10 days. So there's a great side effect that we're getting more curriculum in into the classroom. So it's it's that's that's the story. It was uh, and she's staying. I mean, that's the key to life, is is make things more efficient for them so they can go home and be a parent. I mean, that's that's what they all want to do.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

Yeah, that's good. So as much as you can, I know in the in the presentation I saw you give, you actually demonstrated how to build a GPT. And and we do, we are doing this on YouTube, but you don't have your presentation and uh we're not sharing screens and all that. So as much as you can, can you talk about um building your own GT GPTs? How does it work? What is required, and how do you use them once built? You just mentioned it there that you used it for that lady.

SPEAKER_01 10:23

Yeah, absolutely. And also, I I'll let you know too. Don't forget, I'm not sure if I mentioned it in the in what where I spoke the other day. We uh we also have our as far as I know, we're the only district in the country that has our own AI server. We actually have two. That's right. And uh we had one that's a little bit of a proof of concept, and then we've got another one that's sure it's a big one. It's got two H-100 processors in it uh that can run about 30 concurrent users, and we can use multiple language models. And the cool thing is, is we have all the the individual controls on the back end. Whereas with ChatGPT and some of these big companies, they have engineers that control on the back end. Well, I have instantaneous access to anything that I want to do on the back. Uh, but what I found again across the country is people use it, they just don't know how to get the best out of it. So creating your own is a way to do that and and doing very specific things. Like I give them a script of the things that they need to follow that include things like it's got to have a task. That's simple enough. Most people understand that part. Like you got to tell it what you want it to do. What they miss is things like uh, or things like um giving it context. Give as much context as you possibly can. Don't just ask for a uh, you know, give me a three-month training plan uh to build 10 pounds of muscle. Like that's that's so surface level. Tell it, hey, I can only go to the gym twice a week for an hour each session. You know, here are the here's the typical caloric take that I have. You start giving it things like give it a give it a persona. Tell it you're a professional, uh professional nutritionist and uh power lifter or something. You give it that persona, you give it a format, you give it any, if you've got a former plan that you've had before that you really liked, upload that. Like the more information that you give, the better everything is coming out on the back end. And that's what, again, I think that's the draw of my presentation. And and understand, I've had no formal training on this. This is just what I found using it every single day since November of 2022. These are the items that that program cares about to give you the information out on the back end that you're looking for. So uh, and then I have another method that's called the RISEN method. I don't think I shared that at that conference either. I didn't have time, but it's very similar. It's just built a little more for lesson plans, and it's also built uh a little better for the 01 and 03 reasoning models, but because it gives you a little better script of how it wants, how it thinks and what you need to do to get the best out of it. So that's a you know, this is a this is a two-hour presentation that I'm shoving down here into three or four minutes, but that's the basis of it. It's it's really teaching people to give it as much context as you can and really work from backwards to the front. And then also the other thing that people don't realize with Chat GPT, you can go in and customize it too, to you. You tell it information about you, so then it starts answering you. So I'm a 29-year educator that's been a I've taught Algebra One, I've taught biology, I've taught ACT and PSAT prep, I've been a bus driver, I've been an assistant principal, a principal, and now superintendent. So now if I ask an education question, if it knows all of this, it's gonna start with that answer up here and not way down here below. Uh and then also you can you can script what you want your responses to look like within that as well. So again, that's a big part of the presentation, how you get the best out of it.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

Yeah, really good. That's the paid version, right? The 20 is $20 a month or something like that, right? So gotta go to that second level for to get that.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

But yes and no. Uh to create your own, yes.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

To to script those things in that you want that are personal to you, no, that's open to anybody. Now, again, the $20 a version, you can create your own and you can share those with anybody. Anybody can use them, even if they're on the free version. So if you were the only person in your entire district that had the $20 paid version, you can create anything that you want. And anybody that uses the program in the district can use that program. They just can't create their own. Got it, got it. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Hey, and and you mentioned your two-hour presentation. I think that day in in in uh uh Mississippi and Biloxi, you did it in like 35 minutes, and uh you do you're doing you're doing it three or four minutes here. If people want the two-hour uh presentation, they can contact you and you'll come see them as you mentioned. So, yeah, I know I know you'll be willing to do that. Okay, uh, you kind of briefly talked about it, students using it. You talked about teachers, we talked about creating GPTs. How can AI be used as a positive for students?

SPEAKER_01 14:49

For kids, uh, the same way. I mean, you can you can very simply script a um you know, a homework helper for you. You know, my daughter's taking AP Cal right now, you know, in high school as a junior. You know how long it's been since I've had calculus? You know, she comes in and wants some help, and I'm like, baby, it's been a long time since I've seen this. And then I create something for her that's basically a homework helper. You know, that's something that kids can do. I mean, the the uses are they're they're out there. I mean, anything that they want to do, man, you can create your own textbook with it. You can create your own class with it, you can create your own tutor. We can have teachers create their own tutor in their class to send the kids to use at home. I mean, there's so many things. I've done this for colleges, and that's one of the first things I teach them to do is create a tutor for you that you can send out to your student that has students that have all your information in it, everything. So, so why wouldn't you do that if you're a if you're an educator? Yes, you want them to have access. So this gives you a really nice, easy, pre-packaged tool to do whatever you want it to do. So for kids, man, it's limitless. But I here's what I know more than anything else. We've got to adjust and make sure kids understand how to use this. Because I'm telling you, where we are right now, which is according to OpenAI, is really we're at level three with some of their agents. But level two reasoners are going to take 30% of current jobs. Let me say that one more time. Where we are right now, it's going to take 30% of current jobs. Well, what jobs are those? It's those that are repetitive. Any repetitive job, and I use this example a lot. If you have a if you're an attorney and you have a law firm and you got three attorneys, you probably have five or six, seven pairal legals working there. Do you need seven pairal legals now? Or do you need one or two that can use AI? So those repetitive jobs that you do repeated things, even cab drivers. You saw Elon a few months ago just released the first driverless cab. You know, there are 28 companies in the United States right now that are working on auto drive, not just Tesla. You know, so so they're all moving in this direction. Our kids are going to need to know at least a little bit about how it works, and they're going to need to know how to use it without a doubt. Because they're walking into a job market that by the next year to two years is going to change dramatically.

SPEAKER_03 17:04

That is really good. Holy cow. We are we're on a on a on a rocket ship, in the in the words of Carter Wilson. Holy cow. Now, let's put this into our target audience. So high school athletic directors is really who we talk to uh on a regular basis. So how can athletic directors use and and coaches used AI to enhance their performance and maybe make their ever increasing roles more efficient? I know in my district, they're not only athletic directors, they're also assistant principals. So a lot, you know, we we dismiss high school at 3.30, and a lot of times my phone is quiet until 3.30 when they put that other hat on. So maybe speak to those ADs and coaches as to what their role could be in this space.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

Oh, goodness, there's so many things. How about uh game planning? You know, you can upload stats into it and have it go through your stats and give you a better, uh, better way to train. I am told the newest version of Sora that's coming out, you should be able to upload videos uh of your games, at least uh bits and pieces of your games, and it will analyze the game for you. I know we have some programs that do that a little bit, but not to this depth. Like they can tell you what players to better utilize. That's coming here soon. I would say probably in the next six months or so. Uh creating uh, oh goodness, just plans for team building. You can do that. Uh create an assistant that will do just the the rote things that you have to do every single day. Even you can even set up an AI agent that will respond to parent emails for you. Understand it doesn't hit the send button, but it will respond based on your typical email, and you can set up that automation. So when you get back to your office, the email is already created. You just go in and edit bits and pieces of this and then hit the send button. You don't have to come up with all the verbiage. So there's lots of ways that you can use it as an assistant principal, or or how about this? We all have state rules and regulations that we have we have to abide by, right? Uh, maybe, maybe it's residency or or you know, all of these things. Or what if I have a kid that transfers to England and plays on a Premier League soccer team for a year and then he moves back to the states? Well, is he eligible now? So eligibility requirements, you can upload all of that into a GPT and then you just start asking questions. Otherwise, you would have to go through that whole manual to find the place where it is, and then try to interpret what happens with that. So now it will do the interpretation for you in 20 seconds and also give you the page number where you can find it. So there's a million different ways.

SPEAKER_03 19:33

Okay, hold the phone. Hold the phone. All right, because that this a lot of what my job is as a district athletic director over 16 high schools is compliance, right? So a lot of the phone, a lot of the phone calls and a lot of the the inquiries that come through this office are compliance based. So and a lot of them have to do with residency transfers and stuff like that. Okay. So take literally as fast as you can. If I've got my the the Georgia High School Association's uh bylaw that is predicated on transfer students, okay. I have that information. How do I take that information, put it in so that I can then put in a scenario? This kid moved here with mom, but dad didn't come, that kind of stuff, and then it tells me yes or no if that kid's eligible.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

First, he's got to get his wallet out and pay the $20 a month, right? That's it. That's it. First, okay, hey, okay, done.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Yeah, yeah, he's about to do that.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

I and let me tell you guys, I'd pay $300 a month for this. It's that useful. It's probably saved 30 to 40% of my time as superintendent. And again, it's just using it in ways that we're talking about like this. So how's it done? You literally hit the create button. And when you when you get on the left side, there's a place down toward the bottom that you can upload any document that you want. Put it in, it can be in PDF, it can be word format, it can be pretty much any normal standard format that we have. But then you have to script the prompt. You have to tell it what you want it to do. So in that case, I would turn it into a contract attorney that has a specialty in finding uh details. So I give it that persona. This is what I want you to be. I want you to be that contract attorney that really looks for the small details in this whatever document that you've uploaded. And then I will tell it, here's what I want your response to look like. I want you to, if I ask you a question, I want you to give me your opinion as an answer on that. And then I also want you to tell me the page number and go ahead and show me where that's found within our manual. It really is no, it's no harder than that. And again, if you start getting the outputs that are a little different than what you want, you just go back in and change your script a little bit. It's really not hard. I mean, again, people want to know where to start, and I think that's the draw of what I'm presenting to people is I show you how to do this. And it literally takes once you do it one time and you get it right, you see how simple uh that it can be. And then basically learning its language to where uh you know what you know what to say to get. The outputs that you want. That takes a little time to do. But again, even in that, let's assume that you don't know anything about prompt generating. You can go to the left side up there where it says create, just tell it what you want it to do, and it will create a prompt for you. So that's where you start, and then you just go start modifying that prompt to make it to do actually what you want the outcome to look like. So again, I'd have to show it to you, but really it's simple to do. You just upload the documents that you want, then tell it what you want on the back end. It's that easy.

SPEAKER_03 22:30

Yeah. I j I see this as such a great tool, not just for veteran ADs that know policy and know stuff, but we're in this is a profession where we're turning over. I mean, two years ago, I turned over five of the 16, right? And one of them is 29 years old. So they don't he didn't know, he didn't have that life experience with that policy. But to be able to use a tool like this to answer a lot of those questions early on that you have on a daily basis when you're drinking out of a fire hose would be such a great resource. Now, if if you had to predict the role of AI, let's go 10 years. Okay. That's an eternity in the tech world. I understand that. But what does it look like?

SPEAKER_01 23:10

Uh that part can be a little scary, to be honest with you. I mean, we're we're going to get in and start seeing much more automation than we've ever seen. Again, agents are just now starting to come out. If you see, if you're on the $200 a month version of Chad GPT, which is what I do, it's got its first agent has been built, so it can do things for you. You literally just tell it what you want. It opens up its own browser, has its own keyboard and mouse, and it goes to town and starts working for you in the background. So you're going to see more agents soon. Uh, what we're going to see is robotics change very, very quickly. I'm not sure if you've seen or know, but Spartanburg, South Carolina is already uh doing some beta testing with robots on their on their lines in for BMW. You know, we've gone in literally six months, a stationary robot with hoses sticking out all over the place to a robot that's working on a line. And that was months ago. So where are we now? You know, this is gonna be, and some people think that this is not gonna be businesses aren't gonna be financially capable of buying these. They are. They're less than $100,000 a piece. So for what you're paying somebody to work on a line at Toyota or Nissan in one year, it's gonna pay for itself. Uh, and and I will say the Tesla robots, we're already on a list to get a Tesla robot in our district as soon as they come in. Uh, those are anywhere from $20,000 to $30,000 when they come out. So I'm gonna get this and we're gonna put it in front of kids. Like they need to see this as elementary kids, middle school kids, and high school kids as well. So um again, where's it gonna go? You're gonna see more agents. You're eventually going to see full organizations that are run by artificial intelligence. I mean, it's coming. That's if you go to OpenAI's website, that is level five, and that's the last level. And they are they are pushing toward that. We are on, we're past level two and we're on level three now. Uh so there's only two left. So really it's uh it that part can be a little scary, but but again, I think jobs are gonna go away, but there's also a lot of jobs that are gonna transfer over into something else. And I think that's where we've got to get our kids involved in this. And folks, it starts with you as an athletic director. It starts with principals because I'm gonna tell you this if you as the leader aren't using it, your principals aren't gonna use it. If your principals aren't using it, your teachers aren't gonna use it. And if your teachers don't use it, your kids are not gonna use it. And I'm gonna tell you, it's a train that is screaming down the tracks. I can't express to you how fast this is moving. It is the new arms race. It used to be about nuclear weapons, it is not anymore. It is about AI and who can build the biggest and the baddest and the best. Uh, you see DeepSeek that just came online uh probably a couple of weeks ago that caused a little bit of a market crash in that. That's their version of Chat GPT. So everybody's trying to make it cheaper, better, faster. So it's the arms race and it's coming. Uh so and and again, with every technology, there's always an S-curve, right? There's an S-curve where we're curving up and it's going really fast and it starts to level out. It's almost like the die-coms of the 80s. Right. But hear me when I say we are just now turning up.

unknown 26:08

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

And I think that's the scary part of this. Like it's going to keep going and going and going. You see, Elon is now putting in a uh uh data center in northern Louisiana. We in Mississippi just got AWS in Canton, Mississippi. Like these things are popping up everywhere. And it's not just a data center, it's gonna be housing this massive amount of computing power, and most of it's gonna be run by AI. So uh it's gonna be a part of everything that we do. This is the new industrial revolution. That I'm telling you that. This is not, and all we see on the news is infighting between Republicans and Democrats. And I think that's the frustrating part. The things that I'm talking about need to be on the front page of every newspaper and every news station, and they're just not right now, and that's unfortunate because there's a train coming down the tracks in the background. Sorry, that was a long answer. No, that was that was a great answer.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

I don't I don't even want to speak. I was gonna let you let you just keep going because that's that is such good stuff.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

Now, I've got my opinion on why it's not on the front page of newspapers or six o'clock news, because it could replace those two those two industries, right? I mean, it could, I mean, it can do the news for you, right? If if if we're on the way up, right? So uh if we don't talk about it, it won't happen, maybe, right? But what you said about the new industrial revolution is I mean, that it's scary, but it's also really fascinating that we could be living in a time that we teach about. I mean, we teach about the 1900s. Now, somebody's gonna be teaching about this time when AI, you know, eventually down the road, that's that's really cool to be living during this time. Uh, Chris, I think you kind of answered this already. Uh, and I I don't I hate to be redundant, but also think it's important maybe to say it again or maybe say it a little different way. What advice would you give to educators who are hesitant or unsure about AI in the classroom?

SPEAKER_01 28:02

Yeah, that's a great question. Uh, and and again, you go to my presentations and you would think that every teacher in my in my district is using this. They're not. There's some that are very hesitant, and that's okay. So, so my challenge to them is to just go try it. You know, again, find something in your day that you want to enhance or that's taking up a lot of your time. And then go try to build something with that around AI. And I promise you, if you do it the right way, if you use that script that I gave you, if you do it the right way, it is going to change your world. It will change your life. You know, as a teacher, uh, just you got to reach out and try it. You know, that's the thing. It I can sit here and talk to you about it all day, but until I put it in your hands and teach you to use it and teach you to develop those things, uh, it's you're never gonna jump into it. And I can tell you, I've been very prescriptive how I've moved this out in the district. What I didn't want this to be is one more thing for them to do. Okay. So what I have is teachers that will uh get to their principals and they'll say, look, the new curriculum came in, but I really don't like the poetry that came with it. So there's my end. So I go to the fourth grade English teachers and I do this full presentation for them. And at the end, I teach them to write poetry with it. So that gets them started, right? There's my end. So they get started with poetry and then they start saying, Well, what else can it do? Well, then they start using it. And I also in my district, I have a tech team as well. It used to be the superintendent advisory group where I just came and became the giver of information, right? Not anymore. So now I have two teachers from every building that come to my office once a month. I go through this whole presentation with them. We've started building something together, and then we separated by buildings, and now this past month, they are now building their own for their own classroom. And the goal is for them to go out, be excited about it, and then take it out to other teachers. And then this week, which is actually this Friday morning, uh, maybe even videotape this one for you guys just so you can see it. We actually have our own AI servers. So they're going to start developing their GPTs on our own AI server using different languages to see the difference between what they get on Chat GPT versus using um Lima 370B or Lima 3 3.2 or Deep Seek. We downloaded that one this week. All of these different languages that are out there, see what the difference is. What do you like about this one? What do you dislike about this one? So uh we're gonna be doing that Friday morning at seven. Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

That's good. That's good. All right, one last question for me before Don finishes up. I tried the other day to go find AI tools that would do more than uh just write me a letter of reference, write me a paragraph, or and I know I'm being very basic there, but create a PowerPoint or create an image, create a video. Can you run down, run through a list or a short list of some of those tools? I I ran into, they were all costly, they were all subscription-based, and I didn't know what I was doing, obviously. So what tools are out there, AI tools are out there for like creating graphics for school boards or for social media, uh, creating PowerPoints, creating digitally digital content, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Yeah, that's uh another really good question. We don't use many programs. We really stick with Chat GPT more than anything else. It will do almost all of those things for you, but you have to have the big version of it. Uh like we have we have a big LED board at the football field, we got one in the gym. So now we can create our own content using Sora. So that is a part of the paid prescription uh subscription. Also, we pay for my subscription in the district, which is $200 a month. Well, I share that account with multiple people. So the people that actually create these things on the scoreboard, they can log into my account anytime they want and create whatever they want. So we we do a lot of sharing with that until um until OpenAI gets some things uh done a little better that are a little more cost effective district wide. But now even for the $20 a month, you can create small clips like 15 seconds or 20 seconds, you can do that in 480p. But if you're on the 200 uh a month, you get it 1080p, you get up to 30 seconds on every video. And again, you just script those in. So what I like about Chat GPT the most, that's why I don't go to many other programs, is that it's customizable. You know, you you can get so many programs that you don't know what to use for what. And just because you create prompts for this doesn't mean it works over here. So that's why I've really stuck with Chat GPT, is because they're can they're evolving almost every other week. You know, I've been on calls with the engineers there the last probably three weeks running to hear some of the things that they're upgrading and doing, and they're getting a little feedback from us on the education side of things. And it's that's why I stick with that one. The information that comes back is is a little more accurate than you will find with some of the others, and then I can customize anything that I want. You know, if I want something that builds AI, um AI built slides, I can build that within Chat GPT. If I want images, I can build that within Chat GPT. Uh, you know, if I want video, I can build that using Chat GPT. So I don't I don't want to use 15 different programs. I want to develop on one and then also do a few things on my own local server that's completely offline so we don't have to worry with uh purple laws or HIPAA laws. Yeah, amen. That's good.

SPEAKER_03 33:17

Yeah. That's good stuff. All right, last question. Uh, what's one thing that you wish parents, teachers, or students knew about AI in the education or even athletic space? They're on that fence. You know, maybe give them that last pitch as to why this thing probably is worth their time.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

I think the the one thing that I would like people to understand is they think it's just some computer program that doesn't really have knowledge. The last, just so you're aware, the one that the one that you use on your phone, if you get on Chat GPT and you use 4.0, they did a an estimated IQ on it, and it had a one, it had 150 IQ. You know, so so what what you're using is something that's got a it's got an IQ very similar to Albert Einstein. Einstein was a 160. Sora that's about to release with with OpenAI, its estimated IQ is 160 when it comes out. So the difference is when you what that really means is that it's smarter than 99% of the people that you walk around and talk to every day. And the difference is it's an expert in every subject that there is. You want to ask it a volleyball coaching question, it's gonna know the answer. Or if you want to ask it a particle physics question, it's gonna have an answer to that, and it's gonna be an expert in that. So, so the power and literally all of that power is sitting right here on your cell phone. You know, it's sitting right there on your computer. You would be crazy in whatever job that you're in not to use that type of brain power, uh, for lack of a better term, in whatever job that you're in. It is so, it is so adaptable to anything that you want it to do, and it's super intelligent.

SPEAKER_03 34:55

Thanks for offering an impactful and enlightening day of learning about AI and how we better can embrace this fairly new phenomenon, how it can make us better leaders and educators. Uh, and for anybody out there that is wondering, yes, we use Chat GPT to help us develop the questions that we ask you today. Uh, we thought that would be appropriate, so we tried it last night. We've never done that before. Uh, and I think that uh I think it works. So thank you for your expertise today. Uh, how can people get in touch with you if they'd like to do that?

SPEAKER_01 35:26

I'll give my cell number out. My cell is 662-549-0257. Uh, the easiest way to get me is via I can give you my email, but I'll be honest with you, I've got the keys to the kingdom here. Uh, I get hundreds of emails a day, and really about four go to my inbox because uh I'm everything is based on level of potential threat. So I don't get many emails. You'd have to text me and tell me that you email me for me to go and find it. Uh so that gets frustrating. But my my number 662-549-0257. You can send me a text anytime if I can help you. I'm happy to help you. You know, if we if you wanted me to help you develop a GPT, all you would have to do is send me that uh the paperwork that you're wanting to do, send that to me. Give me about 10 minutes and I can create one for you that'll do whatever you want it to do. I can make Chat GPT turn cartwheels now. So uh it literally, once you once you get into it and learn how it thinks and learn how it speaks, it's really easy to do. But just to get you excited about it, you want to send me your documentation, shoot that over, I'll create you one in just a few minutes and send it right back to you. And you can use it anytime that you want for um all your athletic purposes in the district.

SPEAKER_03 36:33

Holy cow. I'm I'm I may I may you're gonna get a text here in a little bit. It's in your inbox. No problem. Holy cow. All right, Chris, thank you so much for the time today. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Thanks, Chris. You're very welcome anytime.